Hodgson Must Go

Football has always been, to coin a famous phrase, “a simple game complicated by fools”. When we watch video’s of managers in changing rooms explaining tactics to their players, using chalk boards and other gadgets, we find ourselves also doing the same when trying to explain why our team did or did not perform in a certain match. Tactics, I would argue, are usually 35 to 40% the reason why a team performs well or badly in any given match (the other 60 to 65% being player ability and that unexplainable thing in football; team spirit) and watching Liverpool over recent months, I find myself cringing every time I hear someone on a television show or radio lambaste the players and defend the manager after bad performances.

It’s very easy to see the problems in the Liverpool squad; Steven Gerrard and Joe Cole are the only real creative players in the squad (and Joe Cole is yet to reach full fitness or find his form) and there is a lack of pace in the wide areas. But this can not serve as an excuse for some of the turgid football that has been on display so far this season. When you watch a Liverpool football match, the first thing that strikes you is how little control over game the team exerts; in the last 3 games against Wigan, Chelsea and Napoli, Liverpool have averaged 44% possession. That means that, for 56% of the time, the teams Liverpool have faced have had the ball and as Barcelona have shown us, that can be a very dangerous thing.

Roy Hodgson has also had the team defending really deep. Now, when playing counter-attacking football, defending deep is not necessarily a bad thing. The problem arises however, when you’re a team expected to win a match but spend most of it in your own half, keeping your “shape” and allowing the opposition to constantly probe your defence.  This has been the story of Liverpool matches so far this season. Whilst fans of a club like Fulham are willing to accept counter-attacking football as they’re team is not expected to win most of the matches it plays, Liverpool are traditionally one of the big teams in England and are expected to win a lot more matches than they loose over the course of a season.

My biggest issue with the deep defence is the problem it has created for Fernando Torres in particular. Many have commented on the lack of service to him as he usually finds himself isolated up the pitch. This causes Torres to have to drop deeper in order to receive the ball, leaving him now surrounded by not only defenders, but any deep-lying opposition midfield player. As we witnessed against Chelsea, Torres is at his best when he is able to isolate a defender, take him on and beat him for pace. When Torres is forced deep, he finds himself faced with two or more players, limiting what he is then able to do with the ball. Roy Hodgson’s insistence on a deep defence perhaps explains why Torres has constantly looked frustrated during matches as he finds himself being deployed as more of a target-man type striker which is a role he can play but doesn’t favour.

Hodgson also doesn’t like his team to play with much width. A feature of his Fulham team was inverted wingers, narrowing the field which allowed the “shape” of his team to remain very rigid. At Liverpool, I have found myself looking curiously at team sheets containing 4 or 5 central midfield players and wondering how Roy envisages his team breaking down deep, narrow defences. The Napoli match was a prime example of Roy’s insistence on a lack of width and how this has lead to Liverpool producing dire football; Napoli operate with a back three. The back three system is one that leaves itself open to good wing play but Hodgson picked a midfield composing of Poulsen, Spearing, Shelvey, Jovanovic and Meireles. Now, 4 of those 5 players are natural central midfield players. Whilst they are able to adapt to playing in other positions, by not being natural wingers, they were not able to take advantage of the open spaces the Napoli defence provided.

The fifth player in that midfield, Milan Jovanovic, is a player who is more used to playing out wide and showed this by getting behind the Napoli right back a few times in the first half and causing them some problems. Roy Hodgson’s response to this was to haul off Jovanovic at half time (because he dared to penetrate the oppositions defence and not keep the team “shape”) and replace him with another central midfield player in Steven Gerrard. Now whilst Gerrard went on to score a hat-trick and change the game, this was more player ability papering over the cracks of bad tactics.

Those who believe Hodgson will “eventually get it right” at Liverpool will still blame the squad and suggest that in the transfer window he will address the issues he needs to. In my opinion, the squad Hodgson inherited is far superior to what it is currently achieving and his track record shows that the displays are a result of his preference for certain tactical choices as opposed to the ability possessed by the players in his squad. Looking at how open this season has been, I believe that Liverpool have a chance to snatch fourth spot from a stumbling Spurs and rowing Man City but will be unable to do so until either their manager changes his approach (something he has already said he Is unwilling to do) or they change their manager.

With the news that a new CEO is soon to be appointed at the club by next year, we can assume Hodgson still has some time left with no one directly in place to make a decision on him. Let’s hope he takes this time to analyse his team and what has been happening and makes the adjustments needed or he will soon find himself walking away from his last chance to be considered a top manager.

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39 thoughts on “Hodgson Must Go

  1. If we had of replaced a world class manager with someone of equvialent stature Liverpool at the moment the way the League has being so bad this season plus the squad of players the manager would have had in June/July Liverpool would have being good enough to have more than 16 points out of 36 at this stage of the season.

    Our style of play has being awful and Hodgson again showed his negative streak by instructing his side to defend deep and stand off the opposition so much. The result against Chelsea was a brilliant performance but it allowed Roy to be what he is good being an underdog manager in charge of a underdog side.

    In my opinion he still hasn’t got what LFC is about and is out of his depth. His acheivements over his 35 year management career didn’t warrant him becoming LFC manager.

  2. shame on u and your comments.

    can u qualiify your half time sub reason in the napoli game? how do u kno the reason he swaped for sg?
    pure speculation!

    cowboy up and show some damm loaylity!

    1. For gods sake man, pull your head out of the clouds and stop demanding blind loyalty in the face of this gimp’s relentless idiocy. He’s criticised players, flirted with ferguson over transfer stories, failed to defend nando against the treacherous claims of the same manc overlord, played carra at right back, 11 mil cm meireiles right wing and not played pacheco at all…he’s blamed rafa’s transfer record and then bought poulsen and bloody konchesky whilst letting aqua go just when he was fit…aaaaahhh!!!!! I’m a patient 37 yr old redman and i am certain this guy is only taking our club backwards just when we should be starting a brave new era of hope

      1. agree with the pacheco situation,
        however the press questions fired at him where just to grab a cheap headline and then all and sundry swallow it without question, ive asked this writer to qualify his comments on the ht sub of sg and he has not – again this is erratic,collective reasoning.

        we as older fans need to put aside the emotion as getting emotional clouds our judgment.

        its easy to critiscise in the face of advirsity, harder to actually do a postive thing as fans the only postive thing is to support.
        booing at the end after uve paid yr money is ok if u must boooing during and at individuals is riddiculas with no posotive objective.

        the negativity here is astounding.

        one wud think weve just become an above average side in the last few months! the harsh reality is weve been above average since the season before. we have no consitency this is not one mans fault it is a collective.

        I take issue with the lynch mob rounding on another manager,
        who the hell r we gonna get at this stage and dont say daggers as thats the heart rulling the head.
        I also detest the recent premature anhilation of yet another lfc player (c polusen)
        seen it all b4 whelan,lucas,even alonso have had bad starts at our club, yet they turned it round.
        fickle and beyond any sensible balance is the treatment polusen has recived. its a discrace shame on those who boo a red man after such a sh.ort time. U can see he does have vision and his passes in some games have been first rate. before jesus weeps will these morons ever see the damage they start.
        danish player of the year,
        a strong heart , loyal, international experriance , italian leaugeue etc….
        he hasnet turned into a bad palyer on the flight over for goodnesss sake.form is temp class is permannet

        seen it all b4 whelan,lucas,even alonso have had bad starts at our club, yet they turned it round.

        fickle and beyond any sensible balance is the treatment polusen has recived. its a discrace shame on those who boo a red man after such a sh.ort time. U can see he does have vision and his passes in some games have been first rate. before jesus weeps will these morons ever see the damage they start.
        danish player of the year,
        a strong heart , loyal, international experriance , italian leaugeue etc….
        he hasnet turned into a bad player on the flight over for goodnesss sake.

        rummors of a pepe move ? no feckin wonder when he sees fellow players treated like this,

        its a war at our club its been going on for too long yet recent months have seen some stability , we are nearly throu the storm yet still the feever continues with a witch hunt.

        when ur at war u need to tow the line its called discipline and it gets the collective throu the shit.

        I ask all fans again to – cowboy the fuck up

        1. Half arsed lectures on discipline wont make roy hodgson a better manager and i dont need anyone telling me i’m being judgemental after nearly 4 decades as a red. Get on ur horse and do ne ‘cowboy’…and take thhat senile gimp wit u

        2. ‘ fickle and beyond any sensible balance ‘

          I fear any knee jerk reaction will spirall us further

          Im not happy with a lot of things with the club

          r we forgetting the mess h&g have forced upon us.

          half arsed as u put it is what people do when they follow the media,boo boy crowd etc..

          when its quite clear rh is dealing with a much weakend unit.

          argueablly our best player last year left, mascherano whent and like it not we miss him badly.

          our mid is so lightwieght now its awful.

          emotion is diifcult to control when we are so bad right now – profffesionals need to focus

          thankfully the people in charge will not let emotion rule.

          it takes great strength to lead thru shit times

          if these desenters were in my squadron id make sure they weer at the front and when the bullets fly! ……………….

  3. Great analysis on Woy. Took the words out of my mouth. This Liverpool team is perhaps the worst I’ve seen since Souness days but hey Souness’s team never dropped to relegation zone.

  4. The bloke is a complete disaster both on and off the pitch. He is tactically clueless at this level and shows no desire to actually go out and win games. His “happy wwith a point” mentality is suited to mid table clubs where he has now installed Liverpool. Of the pitch his interviews are emabarrasing and border on the delusional. Today he slags off Johnson who has been injured for a while, yet praises Carragher who has been awful.
    The sooner this joker goes the better for all at tyhe club, bar Carragher and Gerrard who like their pet poodle.

    1. your right about Carragher and Gerrard, they are happy to make excuses for this sad excuse of a manager. Can they be as blind and xenophobic as pathetic pundits who laud anything English no matter how bad? Rafa was slaughtered when we were on our way to second place in the league for every tactical decision he made and we now have an idiot and no one says a thing.

    1. Surely you should only get behind the manager if he is worth getting behind, blindly supporting him regardless of how inept he is is a ridiculous suggestion.

  5. Very good analysis. Roy Hodgson is the last remnant of the Hicks and Gillet era that was, to be polite, unbecoming of Liverpool’s traditions of excellence. Having him on guarantees the loss of unattainability Champions League Football tis season and the eventual loss of star talent like Torres. Why show loyalty to Hodgson when he is taking Liverpool down to his own mediocre standards?

  6. Have you seen the Stoke game god o mity he takes off roul when it should have been Lucas if lfc fans thinks Lucas is a first team choice well be ready for the worst season yet and we ness rid of Roy fast before it is to late we wanted a striker and look what he bought koncheski bum Lucas bum Kuyt ok works hard by running after the ball other than that bum millan fast not good enough so see what chance we have we need to let the new owners no that we want Roy out or you can say goodbye to the Europa leage next season to new manager next week so we can recover

  7. Hodgson out now!

    He can go back to small clubs like Viking, AIK and København and Inter…
    He lacks even the most basic managerskills,
    Woy is a total dissaster!

    You better walk alone Roy

  8. Liverpool are the best losers in the Premiership.

    The players r bad as r their their managers!

    They have the slackest players n performances.

    Gerrard if he wants to win the Premiership once in his life has to go to Chelsea, no other options!

    anyway the weak liverpool team is doomed 4ever

      1. Best losers means if you have five potential losing teams then the most sure to lose among them is Liverpool! even if someone has to pick a random loser among a few its still Liverpool!

        You know what is meant by lifting Premiership cup? the only way to do it is to play in a team which can win it in the first place, so thats why Gerrard should go to Chelsea so that he can say in his biography that he has won all the cups in his career especially the most important cup ………….. hope you understand now.

        I pity the liverpudlians since some twenty years back!

  9. having just watched the stoke match and been at the wigan match midweek and previous matches i am now convinced that woy is NO WAY GOOD ENOUGH FOR LFC he is more negative than rafa in setting out not too lose ,his team structure allows no flexibility in it is narrower than a pencil and the players just dont seem to understand that his way is not gonna work no matter what and yet they back him ,they should know by now that the way he sets them up is not gonna work for the type of players we have at the club , there are more than a few players who are not LFC standard yet the stupid man continues to play them,
    earlier this week woy stated that rafa was yesterdays man ,

    1. Absoulutely spot on observation,Hodgson must be sacked now by John Henry and any players who wish to continue playing in a souless,passionless,gutless manner as they have done most of the season ,should be cut loose in Jan.Too many overpaid,under performing players,Chelsea result almost seems like a fluke result now.SOOO DISSAPOINTED LFC FAN OF YEARS.

  10. Even after the Chelsea result I still wanted him to leave. The longer Hodgson is the manager the greater the possibility of our best players leaving and Liverpool staying in table or worse.

  11. Just after watching the Stoke game, what has happened to Liverpool, do we blame the players or manager, Roy stood on that line like a stuffed dumbie, it is time we fans said enought is enough, get rid of Roy and any team players who are not worth their wages Liverpool today slipped back not just in the table, also on the pitch how long do we have pay the price of having a prat in charge roy just pack your bags and go back down south

  12. Yes you are right Gaz we should all get behind the
    manager and push him on the next bus going south that was a shambles

  13. i sayed this first time when he come to be our club manger he is not a lfc manger i realy don’t think he wil never ever make lfc fans happy pleas just go an go we can play beter any team with out go go go now

  14. I have to agree with a lot of the comments posted above. Just to add to the general wave of emotion, whilst Liverpool don’t have the best team in the league, with the way the season has panned out thus far, if this team had been playing to its potential, Liverpool would be sitting in the top 6, may be even top 4, by now. I believe Hodgson has to go if we are to become a more creative team – unfortunately, he has influence over transfers and tactics.

  15. Is it only me but Roy seems so pre-occupied with finding a striker and yet we dont have a midfield, Gerrard apart, with any creativity. There needs to be width. Skrtel is an accident waiting to happen in the penalty area. Hodgson didnt have the guts to keep playing Kelly leaving Carra in the centre. Maxi is a right midfielder playing on the left, Meireles is a central midfielder playing on the right. :Look at his 4 main signings. Konchesky (skinned consistently day and N’Zogbia on Wednesday) and Poulsen (need I say more) aren’t close to being good enough, Poulsen being the worst ever Reds player I have seen. Our tactics are appalling. We only ever get Torres in the box, we dont have the guts to pack the box. We are just a very average team now. He has to go.

    1. Apparently, Hodgson claimed that injury to Torres in the second half blighted Liverpool’s chances. He’s probably forgotten, like all the media, that a team requires 11 players playing in their best positions to the best of their ability. Also, that football is played over 90 minutes. Everything happens through the midfield, get that sorted and Liverpool will automatically improve. Defeat is one thing, but the manner of the defeat was disheartening.

      1. Exactly I fully agree with the comments that when liverpool loses it is not by chance or by any other explanations, it is only and only by playing idiot or cartoon playing.it is always comic their football.

        They are damn weak thats why they lose everytime.

        See Man Utd also loses but not in the way liverpool does. How many matches has liverpool won after trailing down in the first half e.g rarely but Utd always!!!!!!!!!!

  16. hope the owners look at what we earn ,what we pay to go the match,then they will get what liverpool fc means to the fans,they need to get roy out now and give the fans some respect ,get a manager who can take us forward .if roy had 300mil to spend his coaching and tactics will not change and thats what lets us down

  17. I blame the board for appointing Hodgson as Benitez said they know nothing about football. I wish we still had Benitez but we turned down Pellegrini because of his poor english. Since Benitez had to learn english when he came how is that sensible.
    The days of us winning everything with a British team are gone. Its all international now. If there is a Great British manager fine but if not lets not go all little Englander Not choosing Pellegrinni looks like an epic miss.

  18. My comment above is proven more and more after todays result.

    Carragher is a disgrace as well, called the fans pricks who were lambasting Roy as he walked down the tunnel. Roy kept his head down because he is a gutless manager and out of his depth. Get Roy out firstly and then Carragher because the cunt has got to big for boots, very convenient he got a two year contract on the morning of the takeover….

  19. To the idiots saying we are showing a lack of loyalty I would say my loyalty is to Liverpool Football Club, not any one person. If something is harming the club then surely doing nothing about it is being disloyal. Did anyone accuse us of being disloyal when we campaigned against the previous cancerous owners, did they say it’s not the Liverpool way to protest against the board? Why should Hodgson be treated any differently, he is damaging the club and my loyalty to that club means I need to speak out about the damage he is doing.

    As for the person shouting about Lucas and Kuyt, words fail me. Lucas was MOTM for many people against Chelsea and the general consensus among most sensible fans is that he is a young player who is starting to find his feet despite disgusting criticism of him by the media and his own fans.

    Kuyt has scored double figures every season, mostly from the right wing including many important goals and is a valuable player when a more defensive approach is needed also thanks to his tremendous workrate. True both of the players can be inconsistent but to lay the blame for this shit season at their feet smacks of someone getting their opinion from Sky Sports and The S*n rather than actually watching the team and forming their own opinion.

    Further to the loyalty thing, I wonder how many people preaching this were calling for the head of our previous manager, a man who earnt and deserved their loyalty thanks to Istanbul and five great years out of six.

  20. I saw Barcelona play last night. Its not only the quality of players that is there to admire, its their positivite attitude to always go out and win a match. When they attack it is an all out attack. I made a point of counting how many players got into the opponents area. FIVE is not unusual with usually another two lurking outside the area. The players are always ready to play the ball out of defence. Carragher is just not capable of doing anything other than booting the ball forward, the same goes for the rest of the defence. Why is it that we are probably the worst team at signing players-look at what Spurs did with van de Vaart. We got Konchesky (everybody now attacks down our left flank) Poulsen (useless) and Merieles who cost more than Van De vart and constantly played out of position. If we wanted a right side midfielder why did we get him? I suppose I could go on and on But I agree with most of the sentiments here today. Hodgson is just too negative and there is simply no joy in our teams play. In fact I can safely say that watching Liverpool play has become painful and not enjoyable at all. Wholesale changes needed.
    PS how the hell did we beat Chelsea?

    1. They beat Chelsea, simple just because Chelsea did not want to win thise who did not see that are really blinds and dumbs!

      You know how much the bookmakers have won in this result….. they are really strong but wanted this time to lose the match and give the books some advantages…. if you believe in match arranging, then dont ask this strange question next time man

    2. They beat Chelsea, simple just because Chelsea did not want to win this match. and those who did not find this are really blinds and dumbs!

      Drogba playing 15 mins only, malouda playing back and no offensive game!!! cartoons………..

      You know how much the bookmakers have won in this result….. they are really strong but wanted this time to lose the match and give the books some advantages…. if you believe in match arranging, then dont ask this strange question next time man

  21. Roy doesnt have a clue about managing a top club or top players -nor will he attract anyone better than Poulsen or Konchesky- NVS should do the kind thing for him and the best think for the Club asap

  22. pleas MR ROY wrap up ur exprinces and ur player start drive to M62 let me know how many mails u can drive to fulham its no point to have ya in our LFC club drive drive fast

  23. well written. Deep defending and carra hoofing it up all the time, and losing it every single time. Skyrtel is scary, but the defence is pressured by the deep setup.
    Woy is oblivious to the fact that he who controls midfield controls supply, pushes the opposition back and wins the game (I must be a genius!).
    His away record is appalling (1 win) and yet he thinks he’s setting up the team in the right way????????

    ‘pool couldn’t pass the ball against Wigan, like they were tired. but they were trying so can’t blame him totally, except he has to tell carra to stop hoofing it.

    I like NESV professional approach and pragmatism. Simple solutions – gives me great confidence in them that they’ll do the right thing sporting wise. This is a breath of fresh air. let me explain:

    – Woy is on a 3 yr contract and likely to then retire due to age and never having proved himself at any level, so NESV saw a player purchase problem going forward (if manager changes, then you start buying all over again).

    – NESV bought a young proven Comolli (good buying record) to oversee transfers. Woy can say he’s got the say on all team players all he likes, but basically nothings getting bought unless Comolli tells the board its ok. So no lemons will be purchased.
    Excellent setup and caters for any manager current or future.

    – Now NESV are once again pragmatic about Woy. Basically, they don’t have to make the decision, it will be made for them. If Woy goes for any reason, the player purchase side has continuity so that effort isnt wasted.

    – Woy will either take us into January with enough victories or he won’t (I predict a bad period up to Xmas against better sides, cos they’ll all play better than Chelsea with their non-existent midfield).

    – if we only win 1 or 2 games up to Jan 1st, then he may well have to be sacked but if thats the case its easy for NESV to do it.

    – Purchases will likely happen anyway in Jan (Comolli), and if he’s won say near half the games, by then, they’ll let him build with the new signings probably, again unless Comolli decides he’s a bit rubbish and tells the board in not so many words.

    – I reckon that it’ll be a mediocre season, missing out on europe under Woy. Mid table finish.

    – Summer in that case will lead to his replacement. But the danger then is that Torres will leave.

    – if its a good second half, then most people will be happy anyhow cos it will mean signs of progress. and if ‘pool do progress with a solid passing game, then they will excel quickly. Cant see it under roy.

    I happen to think SG should be sold for big money – no point in getting 2 years of Europa cup out of him and he retires.
    Get £40m for him, £50m for Torres (who must play at the highest level), Reina will go in that case – £20m.

    that’s a huge txfer kitty. And Comolli can go crazy.
    Remember, we have to learn to do without SG and need to start now. We also would benefit from learning to score without FT – noone else is stepping up to the plate.

  24. we have no mid

    its been week since alonso whent

    and now masc has gone we r so lightwieght its embarasing.
    this is why we play deep in such games,
    i dont like it buti see why.
    rh and similar mangers play the way they do away from home.

    what makes me smile is raffa supporters put up with the same style yet now happily round on roy as its the trend!

    the win by the greeks at euro 2004 cast the mould for this style it wasnt nice but it can get results.

    we have what we have and we must work with it,
    the alternate is whimsical, no decent mangaer is commin a white horse ,

    emotion is getting the beter of peoples judgment, its way to early to lynch the man.

    im not happy with lots of things , pachencos lack of use,positional changes etc..
    fact is we are above average and missing the jumped up argie.

    we need to steady the ship.

    rounding on any playert or offical is shooting the whole team in the foot so to speak

    we must act rationally and ride out the bad time

    the aqua point is a non flyer the fella has ability but when hed rather be on his sick bed than puttin a shift in! hes no use in this league and 2 managers have have seen it.furthermore no othe PL mangaer was interseted, so end off.

    repel all borders
    unite as a collective fallout amognst each other will only cause more problems

    its not blind its life and its a comp[romise

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